Jordan Rules: There is a Reason it’s Old School

Michael Jordan was casually asked what he thought about Lebron James’ move to Miami, and he politically, questioned Lebron James’ competitiveness.

“There’s no way, with hindsight, I would’ve ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, ‘Hey, look, let’s get together and play on one team. But … things are different. I can’t say that’s a bad thing. It’s an opportunity these kids have today. In all honesty, I was trying to beat those guys.”

Let’s really break that down. When Jordan entered the league in the ’84-’85 season, he was 21 years old. Magic? Already had been in the league for 5 years and was 25 years of age. Larry Bird? 28 years of age and in the league for 5 years, too.

Now, what about championships? Well, Bird won in 1981, 1984, and 1986 with his Celtics while Magic won in 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, and 1988. Jordan of course won in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, and 1998. Now, remember, Jordan said, “In all honesty, I was trying to beat those guys.” That was in reference to Larry Bird and Magic Johnson.

So, did Jordan really beat “those guys”?

Shockingly, the answer is no, not even close.

Larry Bird retired after the 1992 season. He was 36 years old and still had some game left, but retired mostly because he was physically broken down. Magic Johnson retired in 1991 because he announced he had contracted the HIV virus and needed to look into his health at age 32. He inspired many to do the same and take HIV more seriously. He did come back for the 1995-1996 season for one last season helping his Lakers get to the playoffs at age 37.

Jordan won his titles after the Larry Bird era and after the Magic Johnson era. Sure, he won one in 1991, but Larry Bird was already 36 and on his way out of the game at that time and Magic, although a bit younger than Bird and clearly with more game still left, was forced out of the game arguably in his prime.

The Houston Rockets, lead by Hakeem Olajuwon, won the 1994 and 1995 titles. Most critics say it was only because Jordan had retired at that time to get away from the game. Yet those same critics don’t cite the fact that Bird was retired and Magic was forced out with the HIV virus. It would have been great to see how those Olajuwon-lead Rocket teams would fare against the Jordan-lead Bulls teams.

Still, all of this fantasy hindsight is overlooking one critical thing – those teams didn’t win championships because of Bird, Magic, or Jordan alone. They were very, very good teams.

Quick – why do Celtic fans refer to the current team as being based on the Big Three? Well, that is because they had their original big three in the 80′s when they were winning titles and fighting with the Lakers every season to do battle for the hardware. They had Bird and Kevin McHale and Robert Parrish (and an excellent bench that saw the likes of Bill Walton riding pine and Danny Ainge playing a key role). The Lakers? Sure, they had Magic, but they also had James Worthy and Kareem Abdul Jabaar.

Now Jordan would like you to think it was because of he alone they won those 6 titles, but anyone who is observant of history will point out that he had lots of help. Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant formed those early championship cores then later it was Pippen again with Dennis Rodman – a guy, mind you Jordan, that came over from those Piston teams you couldn’t beat.

So no, Jordan couldn’t beat a Bird-lead team because they were in the league in overlapping eras. Jordan never got the chance to go up against a Magic-lead team during his championship run because Magic was retired. And we all know about the Jordan rules the Pistons had implemented to stop him. The Pistons, of course, won titles and prevented Jordan from doing so.

What to make of Jordan’s comment about Lebron? Well, like Jordan admitted, things are different now. And he doesn’t think it is necessarily a bad thing – nor could he. He played in a different era and it can be argued that today’s NBA athletes are much better on the average than they were 10 or 20 years ago. Jordan today would not be any more athletic than most NBA players out there, certainly not more so than Wade or James. Jordan won his titles during a time in which the road to the Finals in the East was also arguably much easier – the Pistons were getting older and the Celtics were down, the Knicks couldn’t find a way to build around Patrick Ewing (until Pat Riley came in there, only to bolt for Miami a few years later).

Lebron, if you’re reading this pay no heed to Jordan’s comments. He is simply basking in the glory of his legacy, he can say what he wants because he won 6 titles. The perception is that he won them and not, say, Luc Longley or Tony Kukoc or Ron Harper. The fact is, if you win, none of this matters. It is all speculative at best and can be perceived as chest thumping and even Jordan (and Barkley, too) being old blow hards. (In fact, Wilt Chamberlain made derogatory comments about Jordan’s playing days saying in his day they didn’t have cameras recording their feats. So, it continues with every generation.) Which, they are. And how could you not expect them to be? They are competitive guys who will never relinquish a “you’re right” to anyone and certainly will not even entertain the notion that they just might be average NBA’ers in this current NBA world. So, let them have their fun but make sure you get the last life – hoisting trophies over your head at the end of each season.

Jordan, just like the rest of the media, doesn’t understand what is taking place here in Miami. That isn’t because I live here or because I am a Heat fan but if this took place in Chicago, or Cleveland, or New York, we on the outside would be “hating” this, of course! But we would still have to wrestle with the fact that all three players are doing this because the opportunity was there and they have a chance to win – and win big for the next 6 years. Jordan could never beat Bird or Magic because the cards never lined up. That doesn’t diminish Jordan’s accomplishments and it shouldn’t diminish what RUN DLC (Dwyane, Lebron, and Chris) do here in Miami. If Riley had traded for these players, would they have the same attitude?

About jonnylons

Self-proclaimed #1 Heat fan. Founded MiamiHeatwave.com back in 2004 when I couldn't follow the Heat living in Tallahassee. Found lots of fellow "Heatians" online and it has never been the same since. Loving this new Heat team with the Triumvirate. Pat Riley has always been, and will now forever be, my idol.

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  1. anypoint says:

    I have a feeling, that if the 3 went to Chicago or NY – everyone would have been fine and said what a smart shrewd move by these guys.

    It may have to do with Rileys confidence, that everyone hates the move Miami did. Outside of that, I really dont know why everyone is nitpicking Miami. They keep coming with a new excuse why it wont work.

  2. Jared says:

    I love michael jordan more than anything, but it’s not like michael jordan is a person to look up to. He was an arrogant and selfish player. Many people complained about him during his day, but what shut people up? He won championships, period. He had a great supporting cast and honestly i think he played during an easier era. Like the articles states, it was easy to get through the east teams. The athletes these days are just off the charts in shape. I praise MJ for all that he’s done, but I wonder everyday how he would have fared with today’s era of players. Lebron is way more athletic than Jordan is…I don’t see how you can make a case that Jordan was more athletic than Lebron. I think Lebron has a better head on his shoulders, however, I hope he doesn’t listen to his handlers too much b/c they seem a little sketchy at times. It’s just pathetic, that we are praising a basketball god that was all about himself and we are giving hell to a guy who has friends in the NBA, who enjoys playing with them/against them/etc. and who really values the meaning of the word team. Just makes no sense to me. But people don’t praise you until you’re all done. If lebron wins all the championships with miami everyone will shut up and praise him years later; thats how it works. Jordan wasn’t praised at the beginning; nor was Kobe (any ppl need to stop comparing lebron to kobe; kobe can’t take lebron–kobe just has always had a better supporting cast). and i’m sorry d-wade but i don’t see how lebron isn’t going to outshine you; lebron is younger and bigger and stronger and more athletic. I just wish people started being more realistic instead of basing their opinions off of bogus ideas that they make up in their crazy head. If your gonna make a comparison, do it the right way and stop acting like MJ did it by himself.

  3. Jason says:

    Jonny,

    This is the best commentary I’ve seen on this subject. I loved watching Jordan, but you’re absolutely right, his teams were certainly not without talent. Pippen is considered a top 50 player of all time. Not bad for someone considered a Robin to MJ’s Batman. Then add Grant, Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, etc, as you mentioned, and you’re looking at more than simple role players here. It seems like sooner or later, after every “great” accomplishment by those with egos, those that reach the top like to at least think they did most of if on their own. That’s what made David Robinson’s HOF speech so refreshing here not too long ago. He was quick to point how he was part of something great and how he was so fortunate to have so many people that helped him grow.

  4. jonnylons says:

    Great comments, you guys. Jared, I am glad to know that I am not the only one that thinks Jordan gets waaaaayyyy too much cred. He was a great player in his era, but today I really question if he would be as good. Remember when AI broke his ankles? Sure Jordan was like 38 at the time, but still.

    And Jason, thanks for the compliment. You are definitely right about old players chest-thumping their egos and talking about how hard things were in their day. And David Robinson was my favorite NBA player growing up (he was born in the Keys, which is where I grew up) and his self-lessness is legendary. I am sure Tim Duncan will mention him in his HOF speech.

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